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RatCreature ([info]ratcreature) wrote,
@ 2008-03-10 17:00:00

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Current mood:curious
Entry tags:art, drawing, drawing: meta, indexing, meta, questions

I'm curious how you organize your reference stuff
Though I don't draw professionally or even all that often, I still have a habit of collecting interesting visual things for reference or inspiration. Even with libraries and these days internet image searches it is not easy to find the exact kind of interesting picture you need when you need it, or sometimes you don't even know what exactly it would be you need to realize some vague idea. Or at least it is like that for me, so if I come across something that is visually stunning, unusual, interesting, seems like a good inspiration, or a possible reference for something I might draw some day I keep it.

Like, if I'm at a used book store, I habitually look if there's a bin of old cheap National Geographic or other travel magazines and leaf through them to see whether any have cool photographs, if I see an interesting picture on the internet I will safe it, and so on.

Obviously after a time this results in an organizational problem if you ever want to find anything again. So I'm wondering how others deal with this.

It's not so bad with the books, I just have a shelf with books I got for their pictures, like for example collections of photographs from the 1920s, 30s and so on, books of animals, places, people, cars, design... It's harder for the magazines because things like National Geographic aren't topic specific, so I never know whether I decided to keep some issue for pictures of some place or some animal, or even whether it was in the title article. Which makes finding things again a bit harder.

Digital stuff is the least problematic in some respects, because I have created a bunch of folders labeled by topic for photos (reference for buildings & cityscapes, landscapes, actions, clothing, animals, plants, objects, symbols, textures,... with some having subfolders) and some other folders for art by other people, and yet another set of folders for fandom character reference, so it's not hard to find which folders to browse. The main problem is that I don't always know where I got some image from, because it's so much easier to just save a picture than to save it and add something to its meta-info field. That isn't a big problem if I just use it as inspiration or reference some parts of it, but if say a landscape photo was to serve as main reference for a drawn background I might want to acknowledge that, yet often by the time I use something I have no idea where it came from anymore.

Photos I've taken myself before having a digital camera are more of a mess, because those are mostly in big boxes, and most are kind of boring holiday photos with some cool landscapes and animals scattered inbetween. But the worst are the boxes of, well I guess "junk" fits, i.e. stuff I've kept for because it seemed like a good idea at the time. Much of that is also paper, like exhibition catalogs, flyers that looked interesting, clippings from newspapers or magazines, posters, but there's also stuff like feathers with a nice pattern, stones, tins, even some bit of metal that rusted in an interesting way, and so on. I mean, I try to keep the non-paper junk down to one box or so, because I really don't need to go down the road of people who end up smothered by their packrat piles collapsing on them, but well, I'm not a very tidy person to begin with, so it's an uphill battle. I guess what I really need would be del.icio.us tagging for RL objects and/or a physical search engine, but I fear that level of virtual home and computer merging is still a way off into the future.

So, how do you deal with organizing your reference and inspirational collection so that is actually useful for you rather than a pile of messy clutter? Do you have some kind of system? Or just really good spatial memory?


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[info]mirabile_dictu
2008-03-10 11:58 pm UTC (link)
I'm not a graphics person, so this is probably useless, but for my texts, I actually keep a folder on my harddrive, one page per book, where I enter info about the book and then extracts (and their page numbers) of stuff I particularly want to remember.

If you could scan in the images you really want to save, that would be terrific, but oh so time-consuming and it would, I imagine, eat up a lot of disk space.

As far as your stuff (feathers, stones, tins, etc.), wow. I do keep a big box I call my Memories Box and just put things in there. I go through it every year or so and cull out stuff that hasn't stood the test of time (though most of it stays, frankly). Maybe something like that? Instead of a lot of little boxes, one large box?

But I'm also very much not a saver or a hoarder; I tend to err on the side of throwing out stuff. If you were here in the States, I'd suggest you hire a professional organizer for two or three hours to get your started, but I don't know if that profession exists where you are.

Good luck solving this!

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[info]ratcreature
2008-03-11 12:13 am UTC (link)
I don't think a professional organizer would fit into my budget. I do have a tendency to hoard, though by necessity I try to curb that. I mean, I live in a small apartment without any cellar or attic storage space. And I dislike knick-knacks and such so the junk is less than the pictures and such.

The scanning has disadvantages beyond the time it would take, like that colors and contrast don't necessarily preserve in a scan, that for reference while drawing looking at paper is better than looking at a screen (also you can put it on a lightbox and trace and such), for which I would have to print it again, which seems wasteful for something that I had in print in the first place, not to mention that I actually don't own a color printer. Though considering that printers aren't that expensive I've been thinking of getting one to supplement my aging b/w laser printer, but page costs for cheap inkjet-type printers are fairly high too, and obviously there'd be a quality loss from print original through scanning to printing it again.

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[info]goss
2008-03-11 10:07 am UTC (link)
Because of how often I move back and forth between countries, I don't really collect much in the way of physical references. Instead I tend to rely heavily on Google Image and stock photography sites.

Usually I save interesting pictures on my hard drive and organise them in folders by theme and subject matter - boy, girl, animal, place, thing (like the kids game).

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[info]ratcreature
2008-03-11 01:08 pm UTC (link)
That makes sense. I'm not migratory like that, and find that if you are in the same place for many years stuff just accumulates.

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